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Wow. Wow. Wow.

This technology has been around for a while, but previous examples and patents have all been bought by oil companies and left in a dark corner to rot. I’m guessing that when this has its patent granted some large offers will be made by oil companies and they’ll add yet another patent to their collection. (But fingers crossed that this one will make it).

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but Denny Klein won't be issued a patent if this particular technology has been around for a while. Maybe similar results were accomplished with water in a different way with less success.

The only problem is that water will one day be much more expensive tha oil... It's not an alternative solution for ecology, just for the price

Water torches have been around for a while. The problem, as I understand it, is not that the technology is being surpressed but that HHO doesn't store well for long. It revert to H2 and O2 gas and can become very unstable. Klein's machine converts the HHO on demand which solves the storage problem. Hoever, the electrolysis process still requires a substantial energy input.

does salt water count?
then perhaps global warming can be stopped if everyone takes water from the ocean for a little while. and then new jersey wont disappear.
yeah i read about water being scarce in the future also. crazy.

There are at least three other companies working with the same technology as Denny Klein. All the companies are producing HHO (Brown's Gas). HHO is a subspecies of Brown's Gas.

www.waterfuelconverters.com
www.savefuel.ca
www.hydrogn-boost.com

If the above comments about items of this type are being bought out by large oil companys, I only hope that the big picture is more important than $$$.

Good Luck,
Jerry Walter

How can I help in the marketing of this?

What do I think?

I think that the level of ignorance of the most basic facts of chemistry and thermodynamics displayed by anybody who thinks this is anything more than snake oil is truly breathtaking.

Basic thermodynamics hmm lets see if I got it. @ 3 watts per liter 1000 liters can be generated for 3 kilowatt hours given a reasonable level of efficiency. @ an average of 13 cents per kilowatt hour, which is a recent national average, 1000 liters of HHO/Brown's Gas costs 39 cents. 1000 liters can be used for a variety of applications, torch and carbon fuel enhancement. For fuel enhancement applications, and given a 30% reduction in carbon fuel requirements, the use of HHO/Brown's Gas as a fuel enhancer is economically superior to solely utilizing carbon based fuel.

Given thermodynamics, the only unviable applications for HHO/Brown's Gas is power production; it would be more conservative to just use the electricity. In the future please do not just throw out terms like thermodynamics, actually crunch the numbers, you’ll be surprised at what you can conclude when you have data and calculations to work with.

You can't make water into energy and then back into water. That's like eating a cookie to nourish you, and ending with the same cookie you started with. You either eat the cookie (and lose it) or don't eat it (and keep it).

In order for H2O to be made into HHO, it requires tons of electricity. Now you are using MORE than just simply water, to make your water into a form of energy. You're using energy, to make your water into ... energy. You don't get *more* energy out of water by using energy to make it into energy, you get LESS.

So what does the water do? It acts like a battery. It stores energy to later release the energy you put into it.

Where does this energy come from? Well, there's several possibilities:

Coal (could just keep burning gas)
Oil (could just keep burnin gas)
Wind (no way we can meet the demand through wind)
Hydroelectric (only certain places can have dams)
Geothermal (only certain places)
Natural Gas (could just keep burning gas)
Solar (would have to cover 1/2 the country with panels)

So what do we have left?

Nuclear! That's right kids, it's the Hydrogen Fuel Cell dilemma. Everyone gets a clean car that drips water as a byproduct, rather than toxic gasses, and we gotta build 30 brand new nuclear power plants to supply them!

What is the latest? We manufacture gasoline vehicles and if we had the opportunity to move to this techology we would jump all over it.

HHO is real, and has great potential. Making HHO (browns gas) on demand is fairly easy and very efficent also. On a car it uses the electrical energy that the car does not use all the time- like wipers, or A/C. Oversize alternators or batteries are easy conversions if required. Plus HHO makes what fuel you do burn more efficient.

HHO is made on demand, not stored. You carry water in your car, the Hydrogen and oxygen are transported in it till needed. And you would use a combustion engine, not a fuel cell with HHO.
The system can be enclosed to recapture what water hasnt been used in combustion.

Youtube has several simple experiments you can try, and make your own browns gas. It dont require "tons of electricity" to produce HHO, it can easily be made with under 12volts.

Even with a Gas/HHO hybred that isnt 100% green - we still can get a full size Hummer in the MPG range of a Celica. A 50% gain on every car on the road, with simple technology, isnt chicken feed.

You can receive detailed, well-researched information that will answer virtually all of your questions regarding this technology by clicking on the following link; http://hybridhere.water4gas.hop.clickbank.net the publisher has already performed many experiments and also includes a synergistic fuel additive formula. You'll get your money back witin a month or two just from your fuel savings, not to mention maintanence savings as well.

Happy eco-trails

For the record, Hydrogen fuel enhancement was first researched by the Jet Propulsion Labs of the California Institute of Technology in 1974. John Houseman and D.J. Cerini investigated the use of hydrogen technology showing interesting results in emissions and gas mileage. The S. Korean government has mandated that over 100,000 transport trucks be fitted with HHO generators to cut down on pollution. The U. S. Department of Energy lists an HHO generator manufacturer on its website. Another manufacturer has its application in with the California Air Resources Board (CARB). And, the provincial Canadian government is funding the hydrogen fuel injection units that will be placed in the school buses to increase fuel mileage.

Feel free to e-mail at Fuel_Mizer@mail.com and I'll send you about 150 more SPECIFIC references.

Jerry L. Casebolt

well if we all start using HHO to power our cars, wouldnt that finish our water supplies???